And BTW @bellacorsolife, you see those folds on Ronin’s skin? They are FAR TOO pronounced. There should of course be some natural folds, but when he’s muscular and in competition shape, there are far less of them. While the dog is standing, you should NOT be able to pinch ANYTHING from the sides, (rib area)but also not being able to see pure rib. *NOTE* Sometimes it looks like you can see the ribs, but try feeling it and an “in shape” dog will have a muscular layer over the ribs. No different than a human body builder. So in that case, the age old “can feel ribs but not see them” measurement of a dog’s BMI does NOT apply. Anyway, from the top and around the neck is normal to be able to grab a whole bunch of loose skin and scruff from those areas on a CC and most large breeds. Several reasons for this with the #1 reason being to protect the dog from the bite of wild animals or even other dogs. If the skin is too tight around the neck, it exposes the trachea, vital arteries and the spine from the back of the neck, all of which are instinctive targets of both wild animals and even domesticated dogs themselves; of which being “clamped” down onto WILL kill the dog. Just one of the “dregs” of instinct from being a wild predator animal. These are the areas a dog with bad intentions or a wild animal will grab and HOLD ONTO until the animal either suffocates(crushed trachea), bleeds to death( punctured arteries and/or other vital veins) or literally breaks it’s neck by clamping onto a dog with tight skin’s spinal cord from the back of the neck(this is EXACTLY how lions kill the MUCH MUCH larger Water Buffalo). I don’t care how big the dog is, if the skin is too tight, and a 50lb bully grabs a good hold of the windpipe(trachea) of a 250lb English Mastiff...say good bye to the Mastiff because half the weight of many bullies is their HEAD!! Their bite force is amazing and their “game”
is even more so...”untrained” they will NOT let go!! The ultimate Molosser breed!! That’s why you see most of these guard, protection or even the larger fighting breeds(such as the Tosa Inu, the “Japanese Mastiff” or also the “Korean Mastiff”) with excessively loose skin around the neck.