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Chilling Interview with 15 year old Noah Turley who blew out his elbow on high intent weighted baseball training. MUST LISTEN INTERVIEW FOR ANYONE USING THIS HIGH RISK FORM OF VELOCITY TRAINING. Listen to interview here https://youtu.be/Cr7M-31wXX0 #weightedball #weightedballs #weightedballs4life #weightedballthrows #longtoss #longtossing #longtossprogram #runandguns #pitchingvelocity #pitching #pitchingpain #pitchinginjury #baseball #usabaseball #littleleaguebaseball #ncaabaseball #collegebaseball #dixieyouth #calripkenbaseball #pitchingdad #baseballdad #baseballlife #baseballpain #baseballplayers #baseballislife #mlb #milb #minorleaguebaseball #baseballtraining #perfectgame

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  • 67w ago coach_mayyys coach_mayyys

    @topvelocity is it true weightlifting can also be dangerous to the novice athlete looking to make gains if not properly implemented and monitored?

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @tjmo1593 thanks for sharing!

  • 67w ago coach_mayyys coach_mayyys

    @topvelocity was the music added for dramatic effect?

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @coach_mayyys why is a barbell 45?

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @coach_mayyys depends what form of weight training. For example, Olympic Lifting doesn't have pattern of injury but baseball Throwing does. If Olympic lifting had pattern of injury I wouldn't encourage athletes to max out in Olympic lifting.

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @coach_mayyys of course didn't want to play happy music or upbeat music when the situation is a serious issue. What's your point?

  • 67w ago d_sandello d_sandello

    #drivelineHATERS 😂

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @d_sandello find it hard to believe this is a laughing matter.

  • 67w ago d_sandello d_sandello

    What about the 15 year olds blowing their arms out because they are showcase babies... just looks like someone is trying to throw daggers at something that is up an coming ... what about throwing med balls overhead with intent ... no harm there oh wait it's because you guys are scientist and figured that only your method works right !?! Psshhh

  • 67w ago denver_blinnwf denver_blinnwf

    @chrislocurto7 arm velo i did the 2x program and weight I stuffed my face with food for about 7 1/2 months (healthy food)

  • 67w ago stevenguadagni stevenguadagni

    @d_sandello Brent has been doing his med ball throws for over 10'years with thousands of athletes and doesn't have any pattern of injury with it. Weighted balls have been in studies since the 60s, not an up and coming form of training. We are fine with weighted balls as a warm up or arm path tool, but as a velocity enhancement with high intent it is feeding into baseballs arm injury epidemic.

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    @stevenguadagni 💯💯💯💯

  • 67w ago 10ahorner 10ahorner

    15 throwing high 80s he should have focused on keeping a health strong enduring arm for the long haul instead of velo. I do believe there is a place for weighted balls, I don't think anyone should throw a 11 oz ball for long toss. It's really unfortunate I wish a healthy and speedy recovery for this young man and I hope he keeps his dream alive and chase it with a passion

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @10ahorner thank you. Good to hear!

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @topvelocity I do not authorize you using my video for your business. Why are MLB teams starting to buy into programs like driveline and not 3x? Throwing hard is not safe, but people can reduce their risks by developing a clean arm action and weighted balls dramatically shorten the learning curve to develop a safer arm action. Weighted balls can also be used as a tool to develop velocity, but alone they can only account for minimal gains. Weighted balls can also be poorly used by having people throw max intent pulldowns on week 1 if they have serious mobility, stability and mechanical deficits. I have watched many of your clickbait mechanical analysis videos and did not gain the 10-20 mph that they promised.

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    @kierankc not alot of mlb dudes are or minor leaguers maybe a handful

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @mattmarksberry if you read my comment, you would see that I said MLB teams

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    @kierankc so players aren't apart of the teams? Lol they say hey if you want to do this you can. They let players do what they want. I'm not saying anything about WBs I'm just saying what I've seen and experienced. To each his own on how they train

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    @awilk_27 hence why I said tell they tell you can do whatever you want lol idc if you training in 0 gravity to throw harder to each his own

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @mattmarksberry some teams are restrictive towards weighted balls and throwing past 120 ft, other teams are open to it, and some even promote the use of weighted balls

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    We are man. I would never bash anyone from trying to get better any way they can. I working to get back from my injury, so I respect everyone's grind

  • 67w ago mattmarksberry mattmarksberry

    @kierankc there are more than one way to eat a Reeses same goes with baseball man lol whatever helps the athlete

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @mattmarksberry I totally agree with you. I just don't like how some baseball development companies bash others because they do something different when they are all trying to make people better and reduce injuries at the same time. If people have a problem with it then make a better product that is proven by letting the numbers speak for themselves. We are all in it for the love of the game

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @kierankc I am only attacking high intent weighted ball training. It isn't hurting or helping my business. I make money because I help people no matter what I promote on social media. Not many people who I work with say I bought your program because you shit on WB. They say I bought your program because I like how you Breakdown pitchers or how you helped a friend of mine. Therefore I take my time and effort to put out real information on high intent WB training because I hear stories like Noah's from the video above almost once a week and I was that kid at 18 ending my career the same way. I hurt for these kids man. You may be high and mighty on your social media horse because you can sound as loud as me but at the end of the day I bleed for these injured kids and I will not stop standing up for their rights to play this game unadulterated. So move on if you disagree because this forum isn't for you.

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @topvelocity Ironically, my elbow hurt so much more doing 3x than driveline. I also made much more gains with the driveline throwing program and a pretty standard lifting program with fast twitch exercises mixed in too. It sucks to see people get hurt in baseball, but throwing baseballs alone is dangerous too.

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @kierankc what's your order number? I have no record you purchased Program.

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @topvelocity I purchased your program in 2011 or 2012 under my father's name. I also attended your camp in November 2014 with my brother. Ironically, you delete the evaluations with 3x vcamp evals so there is no proof of me attending it on google potentially. A simple search on YouTube just like how you looked me up to put me on this video, "prevent ucl injury 3x" will show my camp video analysis and you can clearly hear us talking in person with each other in the video because I was at your camp. @drivelinebaseball

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @kierankc I didn't delete anything. Why didn't you contact me when you got injured? Why did you wait until now to tell me?

  • 67w ago kierankc kierankc

    @topvelocity I had ulnar neuritis, and bad forearm pain. I assumed it's because you had us throw bullpens on the radar gun on 2/3 days of your camp without a good warm up for the arms and post throw recovery plan. I waited to tell you this now because you used me in this video talking about a kid blowing out his elbow throwing weighted balls. Weighted balls and driveline have made my elbow feel great for the last two years.

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @kierankc sorry you experienced that in the camp. We only have two days with you guys and want to get your biomechanics recorded on mound and work with you in drills. Hard not to throw you two days in row. I would recommend next time you tell me you have pain and also be ready for two days of throwing. I do make a point to say in camp you are not here to impress me. If you have arm pain pleas stop. The camp is only for instructional purposes. I am not making roster.

  • 67w ago thevelofarm thevelofarm

    welp, thats bound to happen when your 15, lack overall strength/ arm strength, and probably have shitty mechanics. Stupid to demonize WBs when there was probably other factors that contributed to him popping his elbow. Any coach with a brain knows that you cant jump right into pulling down without building a base of strength/ on ramping before. Its his dumbass coaches fault for his injury, not weighted balls.

  • 67w ago stevenguadagni stevenguadagni

    @stinarbaseball far from the only case. Not demonizing weighted balls just getting the other side out there for players to make a more educated decision on their training approach. More interviews and videos will be coming.

  • 67w ago gunman92pitcher gunman92pitcher

    Didn't know a baseball wasn't weighted. Been lied to all my life. Thought it weighed 5oz.

  • 67w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @gunman92pitcher it does which makes it the standard weight therefore anything heavier is called a weighted ball. Same thing in all sports that use standard weight.

  • 66w ago colter.hinchey colter.hinchey

    That hurts me inside seeing them throw those weighted balls with such high intensity

  • 66w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @colter.hinchey checkout our latest interview with a young pitcher who ended his career with high intent weighted baseball training. He had 2 shoulder surgeries before he was 20 years old. https://youtu.be/-uJf51xBm60

  • 65w ago ethanbroder ethanbroder

    Ended up with an avulsion fracture in my elbow from weighted balls

  • 50w ago charlie.erler charlie.erler

    I've been using @drivelinebaseball weighted ball program since I started high school, I use their weighted plyocare balls before everytime I throw. I am committed to a D1 school because over this past offseason I was committed to the high intent throwing program more than ever before and along with that I did the proper recovery days. It's not the program that got the kid injured it's the misuse of the program. If you do any strenuous workout with incorrect form you will get injured. And shame on you for bashing the competition by using some story of a kid who didn't take the necessary steps in his problem to promote your program over theirs. Grow up dude.

  • 50w ago topvelocity topvelocity

    @charlie.erler I never mentioned Driveline. We are talking about weighted baseball training. We have the studies showing that weighted baseball training is risky. We are doing a service to the young kids who are using this form of training who don't know the risks involved.

  • 50w ago charlie.erler charlie.erler

    @topvelocity I'm sure your system has its risks as well, and there's studies that will prove that weighted balls have less stress on the arm than a 5 oz ball, it's physics. There's is less torque on the elbow due to the difference in acceleration, so saying that they cause elbow pain is ignorant. Every system is risky if you don't follow procedure properly and using kids who failed to follow a system properly as examples of why weighted balls don't work is childish in my eyes

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